France
Hotchkiss 25 mm CAMle 1938
Updated 07 March 2011

Hotchkiss worked on automatic 25 mm designs during the 1930s but could not sell them to the French Army or Navy.  They did succeed in the export market with some single and twin mountings being sold to Romania and possibly also to the Soviet Union prior to the war.  In addition, the Japanese obtained a manufacturing license from Hotchkiss in 1935 and developed their own 13 mm and 25 mm automatic weapons based upon Hotchkiss technology.  It is not clear if any of the Romanian guns were actually delivered and what guns had already been produced were taken over by the French at the start of the war.  Following the Armistice, the Romanians did get at least some guns in 1943.

The French Army used the requisitioned and new production guns in their CAMle 1938 which was a single-gun, towed tripod ground mount that entered service in 1940.  It was found to have some design shortcomings, which were addressed in the CAMle 1939 single-gun ground mount, also in use by the Army in 1940.  The CAMle 1940J was a twin-gun towed tripod ground mount, a few examples of which were produced in 1940.  Some sources indicate that the CAMle 1940J had a considerably increased cyclic ROF compared to the earlier designs, but this is unclear.

The French Navy belatedly placed orders with Hotchkiss at the start of the war and the naval version of the Model 1938 was to have used a water jacket, but it is believed that few if any of these actually entered service prior to the Armistice.

All Hotchkiss 25 mm guns were gas operated and the Model 1938 used a 15-round magazine.

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Twin 25 mm mountings intended for Romania
Image courtesy of John Schaefer

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25 mm on unidentified French destroyer
Caption translates as "Crew of an anti-aircraft weapon on a destroyer during a lull"
Image courtesy of John Schaefer

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Army Twin 25 mm Model 1940J
Image courtesy of John Schaefer

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Gun Characteristics
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Designation 25 mm/60 (1") CAMle 1938
Ship Class Used On Destroyers
Date Of Design 1938
Date In Service 1940 (?)
Gun Weight 253.5 lbs. (115 kg) not including magazine
Gun Length oa 90.4 in. (2.296 m) [one source says 96.5 in (2.420 m)]
Barrel Length 59.1 in (1.500 m)
Rifling Length 53.2 in. (1.350 m)
Grooves (12) 0.0098 in deep x 0.141 in (0.25 mm x 3.58 mm)
Lands 0.117 in (2.96 mm)
Twist Uniform 1 in 25.2
Chamber Volume N/A
Rate Of Fire Cyclic:  220 - 260 rounds per minute
Effective:  110 - 120 rounds per minute
Note:  Data in this table is based upon the Japanese 25 mm/60 Type 96.
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Ammunition
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Type Fixed
Weight of Complete Round All types about 1.5 lbs. (0.68 kg)
Projectile Types and Weights AP - 0.57 lbs. (0.26 kg)
HE - 0.55 lbs. (0.24 kg)
Bursting Charge AP - None
HE - 0.02 lbs. (0.01 kg)
Projectile Length AP - 4.0 in (10.2 cm)
HE - 4.4 in (11.2 cm)
Cartridge Case Type, Size and Empty Weight Brass, 25 x 163 mm, N/A
Propellant Charge N/A
Muzzle Velocity AP - 2,870 fps (875 mps)
HE - 2,953 fps (900 mps)
Working Pressure 17.1 tons/in2 (2,700 kg/cm2)
Approximate Barrel Life 12,000 rounds
Ammunition stowage per gun N/A
Note:  Data in this table is based upon the Japanese 25 mm/60 Type 96.
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Mount / Turret Data
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Designation Singles and Twins
Weight N/A
Elevation N/A
Elevation Rate Manual Elevation, only
Train N/A
Train Rate Manual Training, only
Gun recoil N/A
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Data from
"Naval Weapons of World War Two" by John Campbell
"Rapid Fire" by Anthony G. Williams
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Special help from John Schaefer
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