Britain
4.7"/45 (12 cm) BL Mark I
4.7"/45 (12 cm) BL Mark II
Updated 12 February 2012

This weapon was hurriedly designed late in World War I as a response to reports that the Germans were arming their new destroyers with heavier guns than the 10.5 cm (4.1") weapons previously used.  In fact, the Germans had armed a few destroyers with 15 cm (5.9") guns, but the Armistice intervened before any of these saw active service.  This British program thus gave the Royal Navy some of the most powerful destroyers in the world at the end of World War I.

The mountings for these guns can be distinguished from later 4.7" (12 cm) QF mountings by their abbreviated shields, which offered little protection to their gun crews' legs.  These open-back gun mounts with their lack of integral hoists and low maximum elevations formed the pattern for the main guns used on nearly all British destroyers for the next three decades.

By 1940, many of these weapons were wearing out and the ones that remained were almost all mounted on obsolescent warships.  Rather than simply replacing these worn-out Mark I guns with a different, already available weapon, the British instead wasted scarce resources to design and manufacture a new, direct replacement gun of modern construction techniques, the Mark II.  I can think of no better illustration of just how low a priority the Royal Navy assigned to ordnance standardization prior to the 1950s.

Mark I was constructed of a tapered inner A tube, A tube, full length wire and a full length jacket.  Mark I* was the same with no inner A tube.  Mark II had a monobloc barrel, breech ring and breech bush.  All of these were interchangeable and used a Welin breech block with a Vickers mechanism.  A total of 187 Mark I and Mark I* guns were completed out of 776 ordered during World War I.  Of these, 176 were available in 1939.  32 Mark II guns were ordered in 1940 and all were completed during the war.

The 4.7" (12 cm) caliber was used on almost every destroyer built by Britain between 1917 and 1943.

Actual bore diameter of all British 4.7" guns was 4.724" (12 cm).

WNBR_47-45_mk1_Viceroy_pic.jpg

HMS Viceroy, a Thornycroft "special" V and W class Destroyer
Note the short gun shields

WNBR_47-45_mk1_Whitshed_pic.jpg

Bow gun on HMS Whitshed about 1942
Note the powder bag being handled by the crewman on the left
CPL Photograph

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Gun Characteristics
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Designation 4.7"/45 (12 cm) BL Mark I
4.7"/45 (12 cm) BL Mark II
Ship Class Used On 1918 - 1919
   Scott, Shakespeare and Modified V&W classes
   Botha class as rearmed

1929
   Amazon and Ambuscade

1939 - 1945
   Athene and Engadine aircraft transports, LCG(L)3 and LCG(L)4
   French destroyers Mistral and Ouragan as rearmed

Date Of Design Mark I:  1918
Mark II:  1940
Date In Service Mark I:  1919
Mark II:  1940
Gun Weight Mark I:  7,000 lbs. (3,175 kg)
Mark II:  7,028 lbs. (3,188 kg)
Gun Length oa 219.8 in (5.582 m)
Bore Length 212.6 in (5.400 m)
Rifling Length probably 179.3 in (4.552 m)
Grooves probably (38) 0.037 in deep x 0.270 (0.94 x 6.86 mm)
Lands probably 0.1205 in (3.061 mm)
Twist probably Uniform RH 1 in 30
Chamber Volume 665 in3 (10.90 dm3)
Rate Of Fire 5 - 6 rounds per minute
Note:  The Rifling Length, Grooves, Lands and Twist dimensions given above are those for the 4.7"/45 (12 cm) Mark IX.  As these guns fired the same projectiles, it seems likely that they shared similar dimensions for these characteristics.
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Ammunition
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Type Bag
Projectile Types and Weights HE - 50 lbs. (22.68 kg)
SAP - 50 lbs. (22.68 kg)
Illum - N/A
Bursting Charge N/A
Projectile Length N/A
Propellant Charge 11.45 lbs. (5.19 kg) SC 103
13.78 lbs. (6.25 kg) NF/S 164-048
Muzzle Velocity 2,669 fps (814 mps)
Working Pressure N/A
Approximate Barrel Life N/A
Ammunition stowage per gun N/A
Note:  Outfits included SAP, HE and 40 - 50 star shells per ship unless on escort duty, in which case star shell complement was increased to 150 - 200.
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Range
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Elevation With 50 lbs. (22.7 kg) HE Shell
Range @ 30 degrees 15,800 yards (14,450 m)
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Armor Penetration with 50 lbs. (22.68 kg) SAP Shell
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Range
NC Armor
Deck Armor
6,500 yards (5,950 m)
2.5" (76 mm)
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Note:  Data from "British Battleships of World War Two."  Assumes a perpendicular impact.
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Mount / Turret Data
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Designation Single open mounts
   Scott (5) and Shakespeare (5):  CPVI
   Modified V&W (4):  CPVI*
   Amazon (4), Ambuscade (4), Mistral (4) and Ouragan (4):  CPVI**
   Others:  N/A
Weight  about 8 tons (8.1 mt)
Elevation -9.5 / +30 degrees
Elevation Rate Manually operated, only
Train about +120 / -120 degrees
Train Rate Manually operated, only
Gun recoil N/A
Note:  Many older destroyers were converted to long-range convoy escorts during World War II and had two or more guns removed in order to fit them with additional fuel tanks and ASW equipment.
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Data from
"Naval Weapons of World War Two" and "British Naval Guns 1880-1945 No 15" article in "Warship Volume IX" both by John Campbell
"Naval Radar" by Norman Friedman
"Torpedo Warfare:  A Successful Prediction" article by D.J. Lyon in "Warship Volume VII"
"British Battleships of World War Two" by Alan Raven and John Roberts
"Destroyers of World War Two" by M.J. Whitley
and
Tony DiGiulian's personal files
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